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Art 14 and 15 doesn't come into picture with ILP .. Only Art. 19 comes into picture
please read my explanation above and counter with arguments regarding Art 14 and 15.
Art 15 (4) Nothing in this article or in clause ( 2 ) of Article 29 shall prevent the State from making any special provision for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes
14. Equality before law The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India
Art 14 and 15 doesn't come into picture with ILP .. Only Art. 19 comes into picture
please read my explanation above and counter with arguments regarding Art 14 and 15.
Art 15 (4) Nothing in this article or in clause ( 2 ) of Article 29 shall prevent the State from making any special provision for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes
14. Equality before law The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India
As per 2001 census, Manipur has 34% tribal population. So can the restrictions throughout the state be justified in the name of advancement of Scheduled tribes? Shouldnt ILP be applied to tribal areas specifically?
-- For Art. 15 : Does the system of ILP stand for the advancement of various groups? According to me ILP is just a protection measure.. No state has ever invoked ILP system for the advancement of its constituents.
-- For Art. 14 : Consider me and a guy from Mizoram. We both are Indian citizens, but before the state of Mizoram we stand as two different entities. Does this not violate equality before law?
Although I believe you are very correct, that inspite of ILP system .. equal Protection of law is applicable, as in equal protection of laws, different groups of people are given equal protection within their group. And hence me and this mizoram guy are two groups, and laws shall be equally applied within our group.
Art 14 and 15 doesn't come into picture with ILP .. Only Art. 19 comes into picture
please read my explanation above and counter with arguments regarding Art 14 and 15.
Art 15 (4) Nothing in this article or in clause ( 2 ) of Article 29 shall prevent the State from making any special provision for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes
14. Equality before law The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India
As per 2001 census, Manipur has 34% tribal population. So can the restrictions throughout the state be justified in the name of advancement of Scheduled tribes? Shouldnt ILP be applied to tribal areas specifically?
as per my understanding from news and inputs from others......there are three broad cultural groups in manipur...meteis, nagas and kukis..where nagas and kukis are tribes. the demand for ILP has been raised by meiteis with parallel demand for tribal status..actually the tribal groups are opposing the ILP move.......
in my personal opinion granting of ILP in 3 states is attached more to national security matters than on tribal matters ..few years ago meghalaya also demanded ILP status....
-- For Art. 15 : Does the system of ILP stand for the advancement of various groups? According to me ILP is just a protection measure.. No state has ever invoked ILP system for the advancement of its constituents.
-- For Art. 14 : Consider me and a guy from Mizoram. We both are Indian citizens, but before the state of Mizoram we stand as two different entities. Does this not violate equality before law?
Although I believe you are very correct, that inspite of ILP system .. equal Protection of law is applicable, as in equal protection of laws, different groups of people are given equal protection within their group. And hence me and this mizoram guy are two groups, and laws shall be equally applied within our group.
I think I might be getting too technical :-B
say for eg...one caste gets reservation is a state but doesn't get in another....or another example...gujarat bans liquor but not delhi......unequal laws in different states....i hope its cleared now...
Manipur is geographically divided into valley (8%) and hills(92%). The valley supports 60% population. Valley people cant buy land in hill areas but valley is open to all. Meiteis reside in valley while nagas and kukis reside in hills. Meiteis do not get ST reservation and find it difficult to compete with mainland Indians in Unreserved category. This created pressure in the land,jobs,culture of the valley people. Also, Nepalis,Bangladeshis reside in hills where there is no land revenue system. But they also share the limited resources of Manipur. Thus,the meiteis feel cornered and threaten.They demand a law similar to ILP which prohibit ownership of land property by outsiders especially by illegal immigrants from Bangladesh,Myanmar and Nepal. It is important to note that there is no restriction on other rights of the Indian citizens. There is no other separate law or regulation for other Indian citizens.
Regarding the ST status demand of Meiteis,Meiteis were ST till 1951. But it was revoked without proper consultation with the Meiteis. Also, Meiteis have their own culture,language,Sanamahi religion(though majority of Meiteis follow hinduism),geographical isolation,backwardness which fulfill the criteria to get ST status even for a short peroid. Since Meiteis are dominant group in Manipur they fear it could create insecurity among different communities in Manipur. But a separate law can be created providing reservation in state services according to population.
Now, we can say that ILP demand is related to the question of survival and the chance to get the opportunity in ST reservation. Its the matter of justice.. This the real picture in Manipur right now.. Jai Hind...
Manipur is geographically divided into valley (8%) and hills(92%). The valley supports 60% population. Valley people cant buy land in hill areas but valley is open to all. Meiteis reside in valley while nagas and kukis reside in hills. Meiteis do not get ST reservation and find it difficult to compete with mainland Indians in Unreserved category. This created pressure in the land,jobs,culture of the valley people. Also, Nepalis,Bangladeshis reside in hills where there is no land revenue system. But they also share the limited resources of Manipur. Thus,the meiteis feel cornered and threaten.They demand a law similar to ILP which prohibit ownership of land property by outsiders especially by illegal immigrants from Bangladesh,Myanmar and Nepal. It is important to note that there is no restriction on other rights of the Indian citizens. There is no other separate law or regulation for other Indian citizens.
Regarding the ST status demand of Meiteis,Meiteis were ST till 1951. But it was revoked without proper consultation with the Meiteis. Also, Meiteis have their own culture,language,Sanamahi religion(though majority of Meiteis follow hinduism),geographical isolation,backwardness which fulfill the criteria to get ST status even for a short peroid. Since Meiteis are dominant group in Manipur they fear it could create insecurity among different communities in Manipur. But a separate law can be created providing reservation in state services according to population.
Now, we can say that ILP demand is related to the question of survival and the chance to get the opportunity in ST reservation. Its the matter of justice.. This the real picture in Manipur right now.. Jai Hind...
Spot on! The ILP debate has all to do with how Meiteis do not have any constitutional / legal protection vs. tribal (Naga, Kuki); the latter obviously have Art. 371C est. HAC and Autonomous District Councils under Manipur (DC) Act, 1971. So Meiteis are agitating for ILP, ST status. The tribals feel they do not have the requisite documentation establishing them as Manipuris and could thus end up being categorized as outsiders, losing the privileges they derive from these Acts, Constitutional provision. Hence they have been opposing this. Ultimately ILP as @RasAlGhul rightly pointed out is an archaic instrument of the British era which needs to go. Obviously it would have to be done by Centre on the grounds of exercising its residuary powers (not mentioned in either SL, CL, UL) and simultaneously for all 3 states on grounds of unconstitutionality.
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Art 15 (4) Nothing in this article or in clause ( 2 ) of Article 29 shall prevent the State from making any special provision for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes
14. Equality before law The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India
-- For Art. 15 : Does the system of ILP stand for the advancement of various groups? According to me ILP is just a protection measure.. No state has ever invoked ILP system for the advancement of its constituents.
-- For Art. 14 : Consider me and a guy from Mizoram. We both are Indian citizens, but before the state of Mizoram we stand as two different entities. Does this not violate equality before law?
Although I believe you are very correct, that inspite of ILP system .. equal Protection of law is applicable, as in equal protection of laws, different groups of people are given equal protection within their group. And hence me and this mizoram guy are two groups, and laws shall be equally applied within our group.
I think I might be getting too technical :-B
in my personal opinion granting of ILP in 3 states is attached more to national security matters than on tribal matters ..few years ago meghalaya also demanded ILP status....
Regarding the ST status demand of Meiteis,Meiteis were ST till 1951. But it was revoked without proper consultation with the Meiteis. Also, Meiteis have their own culture,language,Sanamahi religion(though majority of Meiteis follow hinduism),geographical isolation,backwardness which fulfill the criteria to get ST status even for a short peroid. Since Meiteis are dominant group in Manipur they fear it could create insecurity among different communities in Manipur. But a separate law can be created providing reservation in state services according to population.
Now, we can say that ILP demand is related to the question of survival and the chance to get the opportunity in ST reservation. Its the matter of justice.. This the real picture in Manipur right now..
Jai Hind...