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Came across news of DU cutoff reaching 100%. Amazed how this cutoff is counted with such astronomical figures. With few commerce courses were hell-raisers. How the marks are counted? Anyone who can explain this seemingly outrageous theory?
It's analogous to the concept of the real value of money to some extent. In nominal terms, money loses it's value and the figures go on increasing.
A score of 100% (percentile for most boards) today is equivalent to a 85-90% 20 years ago. It was the boards like CBSE's who took to awarding 100 on 100 in all papers. It is, therefore, no surprise that many form boards like CBSE get that kind of an inflated score in nominal terms. In real terms, though, the relative quality of the students rarely varies or improves.
In WB board (for example), it is impossible to score that high; you sweat real hard even to score a 70-80%. This year, only about 15% of the examinees scored 60% and above in WB. I refuse to accept that the toppers of WB board are somehow inferior just because their scores are not to the same scale as that from more lenient boards. Of course, this debars them (de facto) from DU seats. [....ignore the personal rant]
Add to that, the small (but significant) absolute increase in scores (Flynn effect and the like) and bombastic growth in the number of exam-takers (proportional to the increase in the national population) - on the demand side of seats. On the supply side, we have a tardy growth in seats thanks mostly due to lack of demand for employees from the economy due to an even tardier growth in the job market. There is only so much labour that the economy can absorb. And, add further to that, the situation of jobless growth. Thus we have more and more people fighting over less and less seats pushing up the cutoffs.
If this is the case, I think there should have been a general competitive exam for all applicants for we never know how and in what condition the students got 100% or close to 100%. As @ArindamSarkar said some boards give 90% to major students which is normal ! Some boards like WB Board are very strict in giving %. Current system of preparing merit list just on the basis of +2 marks is totally understandable. It does not give a level playing field to all students.
@Sheen@ArindamSarkar It's irritating knowing the toppers of WB board had to fight tooth and nail to get a sheet. On the other hand it's amazing and ridiculous to know close to 7000 TN Board students got close to 100 percent grabbing a third of DUs elite colleges. I am not making a judgement but sometimes it gets to our nerves. Some articles mentioned about political pressures. Again I am not passing value judgements about quality of students (They are excellent). Then again mentioning my state Odisha students passed from a district are 20000 but the maximum capacity of all colleges (Everything) is 8000. Again at the top and at the roots. Other 10000+ cut off.
Quite frankly, I feel that all college admissions should be through entrances alone. Maybe one entrance per course but allowing people to take any number of these for all subjects chosen.
Maybe club entry into B.Sc Physics, Chemistry, Maths entrances with the engineering entrances; B.Sc Zoology, Botany, Agriculture, Physiology, Biotech, Pharmacy, Optimetry, Paraclinicals, etc with the entrances for medical/dental; Separate entrances like so for arts and commerce streams too (beyond my expertise to elaborate). Law already uses CLAT; Architecture too.
If it is possible for medical and engineering, and for many good colleges, then why not all of it? If UPSC and state PSCs can do it, why not all? An SAT like system that includes interviews (of those shortlisted) may also be taken up.
my senior batch had around 40 students (1 section) my batch had 150+ students(2 sections) my junior batch had 250+ students(2 sections) college kirori mal subject Physics Hons
the problem is after 1st year most student fail in my batch around 38 student failed. all these seats go to waste because most student take admission as back up if they fail in engineering... the result is they fail in both entrance and academics, wasting university resources every year. so less new seats. still colleges are enrolling more every year even though they dont have labs and lecture halls to sustain such a huge crowd.
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A score of 100% (percentile for most boards) today is equivalent to a 85-90% 20 years ago. It was the boards like CBSE's who took to awarding 100 on 100 in all papers. It is, therefore, no surprise that many form boards like CBSE get that kind of an inflated score in nominal terms. In real terms, though, the relative quality of the students rarely varies or improves.
In WB board (for example), it is impossible to score that high; you sweat real hard even to score a 70-80%. This year, only about 15% of the examinees scored 60% and above in WB. I refuse to accept that the toppers of WB board are somehow inferior just because their scores are not to the same scale as that from more lenient boards. Of course, this debars them (de facto) from DU seats. [....ignore the personal rant]
Add to that, the small (but significant) absolute increase in scores (Flynn effect and the like) and bombastic growth in the number of exam-takers (proportional to the increase in the national population) - on the demand side of seats. On the supply side, we have a tardy growth in seats thanks mostly due to lack of demand for employees from the economy due to an even tardier growth in the job market. There is only so much labour that the economy can absorb. And, add further to that, the situation of jobless growth. Thus we have more and more people fighting over less and less seats pushing up the cutoffs.
Some boards like WB Board are very strict in giving %.
Current system of preparing merit list just on the basis of +2 marks is totally understandable.
It does not give a level playing field to all students.
Maybe club entry into B.Sc Physics, Chemistry, Maths entrances with the engineering entrances; B.Sc Zoology, Botany, Agriculture, Physiology, Biotech, Pharmacy, Optimetry, Paraclinicals, etc with the entrances for medical/dental; Separate entrances like so for arts and commerce streams too (beyond my expertise to elaborate). Law already uses CLAT; Architecture too.
If it is possible for medical and engineering, and for many good colleges, then why not all of it? If UPSC and state PSCs can do it, why not all? An SAT like system that includes interviews (of those shortlisted) may also be taken up.
i meant
'Current system of preparing merit list just on the basis of +2 marks is totally 'not' understandable.'
my batch had 150+ students(2 sections)
my junior batch had 250+ students(2 sections)
college kirori mal
subject Physics Hons
the problem is after 1st year most student fail
in my batch around 38 student failed. all these seats go to waste because most student take admission as back up if they fail in engineering... the result is they fail in both entrance and academics, wasting university resources every year. so less new seats. still colleges are enrolling more every year even though they dont have labs and lecture halls to sustain such a huge crowd.